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[killer speaking] <i>There's</i>
<i>a thing inside of me,</i>
<i>it's like...</i>

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<i>the appetite, it's like a wolf</i>
<i>that's...</i>

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<i>killing... the hunger.</i>

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Even when you have seasoned...

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detectives,

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and seasoned police officers,

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there's very little
that prepares a human being

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<i>for seeing</i>

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<i>a harrowing crime scene</i>
<i>like this,</i>

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<i>where a human being</i>
<i>has been treated with</i>

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<i>such a level of disregard</i>

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<i>that it just tells us</i>
<i>that this is a high-risk case,</i>

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<i>and it's somebody</i>
<i>who has some level</i>
<i>of psychiatric disturbance</i>

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to be able to do that
to another human being.

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Cohee's displaying classic
psychopathic tendencies

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where he has absolutely
no remorse,

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no feelings of guilt.

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He's not offering up
any of that.

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<i>But what he's offering up is</i>
<i>how much time he's got to do</i>

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<i>because of this murder.</i>

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<i>He's really not identifying</i>
<i>what the value of the life is.</i>

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<i>He doesn't really understand.</i>

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He's just saying, "Oh, okay,
I'm going to go away
for a couple of years."

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There's no empathy towards
the victim, whatsoever.

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<i>No understanding of life,</i>

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<i>feelings, emotions,</i>
<i>absolutely none.</i>

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[Dr. Charles] <i>He's announcing,</i>
<i>there are weapons in the car,</i>

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and I'm a sick person.

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So, we can see this as

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already setting a new frame

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in the conversation
with the interviewer

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<i>in controlling</i>
<i>where it's gonna go</i>

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<i>and then framing</i>
<i>how it should be viewed.</i>

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<i>He's already laying out</i>
<i>the status for</i>

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what could be described as
an excuse or a defense,

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um, sort of putting the blame
somewhere else.

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[Dr. Nameeta] <i>As he starts</i>
<i>to talk about the details</i>

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<i>of his attack on the victim,</i>

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<i>he seems to be</i>
<i>getting titillated</i>

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and aroused by this,

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and not aroused
in the sexual
sense of the word

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but aroused in the sense
that the adrenalin
is starting to course.

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[mimics growling]

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[detective] <i>Okay.</i>

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[Cohee chuckles]

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[Dr. Nameeta]
<i>He's not attached</i>
<i>to the fact that Warren Barnes</i>

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this is a human being
he killed,

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and that he went on to then

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dehumanize,
and humiliate his body,

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<i>his remains.</i>

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<i>It sounds like it's something</i>
<i>out of a horror movie.</i>

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<i>But what we also get</i>
<i>a sense of is that,</i>
<i>Brian Cohee was entertained.</i>

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<i>This was play-acting for him.</i>

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<i>This was him</i>
<i>going through the motions</i>

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of creating
his own horror film,

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creating his own
set of memories.

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Many people with psychopathy
sense they...

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they don't appreciate
the world around them
like other people do,

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may incorporate the ideas

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that they've seen
in a film into the act

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that they act out

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because the fantasy world
is more interesting to them

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<i>than the actual world</i>
<i>of human relations</i>
<i>that they live in.</i>

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Cohee proudly talks about
what he knows,

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and what he has become
a learner of,

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which is
the forensic sciences,

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and how
the criminal mind thinks,

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and he has taken copious notes
on various serial killers.

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<i>What is ironic,</i>

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is that he didn't take
many steps
to hide his evidence,

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<i>and his own sort of missteps</i>
<i>in decision making,</i>

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<i>the fact that his mother found</i>
<i>these remains in the home,</i>

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<i>speaks of somebody</i>
<i>who was looking to get caught,</i>

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because it's not spectacular,
if it only lives in your head.

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I think there's a lot
in that comment.

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The... the criminal is someone

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who is not obeying
social rules,

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a police officer is someone
who has a lot of authority
over other people

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<i>but I think it's more of</i>
<i>the access to people</i>
<i>in power and control issue</i>

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<i>that would be appealing</i>
<i>to someone with psychopathy.</i>

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[Dr. Nicole] <i>Cohee</i>
<i>is choosing a victim</i>

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<i>that he thinks</i>
<i>no one will know is missing,</i>

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<i>so he can actually</i>
<i>complete the act of killing.</i>

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This is a new thing for him.

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He hasn't done this before.

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So he doesn't want
to engage in a struggle.

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He doesn't want it
to be interfered with.

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He wants
to accomplish this act

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<i>to get that feeling</i>
<i>of excitement and arousal.</i>

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[Dr. Charles] <i>Cohee talks</i>
<i>about his experience</i>
<i>killing a cat</i>

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<i>and it's a miniature</i>

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prelude to killing a human

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and cutting them open

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and taking their head off.

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Uh, and we do see that
in many instances

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of people
who are psychopathic,

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who then go on to kill people.

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<i>They've done rehearsal.</i>
<i>They've tortured animals</i>

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<i>or they've hurt other kids.</i>

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Those are all
sort of the baby steps

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toward the bigger act
of killing a human.

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What we know
about Brian Cohee's time

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in school and as a student

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is there were
a multitude of red flags.

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<i>Revealing some of the entries</i>
<i>from Cohee's journals,</i>

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<i>they can best be summarized</i>

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as a self-created
encyclopedia on murder,

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on harm of human beings,

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<i>and glorifying</i>
<i>psychopathic behavior.</i>

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There was also an incident
of a third-degree assault,

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where he created
a homemade weapon,
a homemade mace,

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and swung it around

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into one of
the other student's heads.

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[Dr. Nicole]
<i>He was practicing,</i>

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because if he can perfect that

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then he can take it
to next level and add in
that sexual component

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and that would make sense
for someone like Cohee

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who doesn't
have any history
of personal relationships,

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<i>let alone with females,</i>

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<i>and so this might be</i>
<i>a way of him</i>

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seeing what it's like
to be with a female,

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but controlling
and abusing them
and getting them to the point

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where they are in
such fear of their life

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that it's also giving him
sexual gratification
off of that.

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[Dr. Nameeta] <i>What might be</i>
<i>most disturbing</i>

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<i>when Cohee talks about</i>
<i>how it felt for him,</i>

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<i>he's a bit deflated.</i>

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Cohee's desire
to seek a thrill

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and a get a high
or an adrenalin rush,

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it didn't even really last.

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So, what happens
for a person like Brian Cohee

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<i>if that thrill-seeking</i>
<i>and an adrenaline rush</i>

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<i>is short lived,</i>

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after doing
that much destruction
to a human being?

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That part I think
is incredibly scary
to think about.

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[reporter] <i>A Mesa County teen</i>
<i>accused of brutal murder</i>

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<i>of the local homeless man</i>
<i>has pleaded not-guilty</i>

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<i>by reason of insanity.</i>

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<i>Nineteen-year-old Brian Cohee</i>
<i>entered the plea in person</i>

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<i>during his arraignment</i>
<i>in Mesa County Court</i>
<i>this morning.</i>

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<i>During hearing in September</i>

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<i>an investigator</i>
<i>told the court,</i>

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<i>he believed Cohee suffered</i>

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<i>from mental illness</i>
<i>and depression</i>

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<i>among other conditions.</i>

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In general,
when we think about
competency evaluations,

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we are thinking about
at the time of the crime,

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did they understand
the difference
between right and wrong?

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<i>Brian Cohee understood</i>
<i>if he was caught</i>
<i>he'd be in trouble,</i>

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and this is somebody that
from the outset of
when he left home

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took steps
to avoid being detected,

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avoid being
linked to this crime.

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<i>And ultimately</i>
<i>his choice of victims</i>
<i>was also part of that,</i>

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<i>in that he chose somebody</i>
<i>that by his own definition,</i>

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<i>he thought</i>
<i>would not be missed.</i>

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[reporter] <i>Judge Gurley</i>
<i>sentenced Cohee</i>

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<i>to the rest</i>
<i>of his natural life in prison</i>

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<i>plus thirteen and half years</i>
<i>without parole.</i>

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<i>Justice served,</i>
<i>that while Warren is gone,</i>

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<i>he will never be forgotten.</i>

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<i>Now, some of</i>
<i>Warren's family members</i>

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<i>told me they choose</i>
<i>to remember Warren</i>

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<i>where he was known</i>
<i>and loved,</i>

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<i>at his memorial</i>
<i>in Downtown Grand Junction,</i>

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<i>not the murder site.</i>


